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New Extension by Tom Muck

You don't need this extension!
January 18, 2002 by jose jones

Sorry, I'm all for someone making a dollar, but come on this is not worth $19. Anyone can do this code themselves.

1) After you've set up the tables and are getting the recordsets you want. Put this code before connecting to the database:

<%
'put this code in, and change where needed
if request.querystring("sortby") = "area_id" then
sortby = "area_id"
elseif request.querystring("sortby") = "ID" then
sortby = "ID"
elseif request.querystring("sortby") = "email" then
sortby = "email"
else
sortby = "ID"
end if
'Below is something simular to what you ahould have already add '& sortby' at the end of the select statement
set rsYOURRECORDSET = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
rsYOURRECORDSET.ActiveConnection = MM_db_STRING
rsYOURRECORDSET.Source = "SELECT area_id, email, ID FROM area ORDER BY  " & sortby
rsYOURRECORDSET.CursorType = 0
rsYOURRECORDSET.CursorLocation = 2
rsYOURRECORDSET.LockType = 3
rsYOURRECORDSET.Open()
rsYOURRECORDSET_numRows = 0
%>

2) now wrap your table headings with this code

<td><A HREF="nameofyourfile.asp?sortby=area_id">Area ID</a></td>

This is all you need to do to sort your tables. I'm still learning and adding functionality to this as well. I'm just pissed these guys think people are that stupid. I'm willing to pay money for stuff, but this is too easy for someone to make a buck on!!

RE: You don't need this extension!
January 18, 2002 by Waldo Smeets
  • It goes for all extensions that you can do their code yourself. But that's not the only thing what extensions are about. You are using Dreamweaver, aren't you? if so... can't you type those table tags by hand? You can? So why did you buy Dreamweaver (assuming you did)?
  • Your code is far from complete compared to Tom his code (where is the ASC, DESC part? Where it the Keep Parameters Part?)
  • Ever tought about the time it would save you to use this extension? (no need to handcode, easy to edit etc etc)
  • ... and the list goes on....

Some people just don't seem to understand what it's all about.

RE: RE: You don't need this extension!
January 18, 2002 by jose jones

As I said, my solution is far from complete, but I have $19 still in my pocket, and I'm learning how to do my own code and not use UD.

RE: RE: RE: You don't need this extension!
January 18, 2002 by Tim Green

If you're learning how to do all your own code, then what are you griping about?

Oh, and one other thing.... can you do this same 'simple' action in JSP, CFML or PHP too? Because this extension can.

But let's put all this into perspective shall we. You're still learning, and that's fine. Exactly how long did it take you to get proficient enough to do that code? A few weeks? A few days? A few hours?

If we're talking real life here, and it seems to me that's what you are doing, if you're so keen to save the money. How much would it have cost you to actually work out how to write that routine?

All extensions can be broken down in this way. There's nothing really new about the functionality. But given that you don't have to pay the development cost, the debugging costs, or the testing costs (and if you do this as a hobby, then it does still cost despite what you might think). How long would you have had to work to spend $19?

Dreamweaver and UltraDev extensions are all about time saving. If you have the time to spend, then that's fine, there really is no need for you to buy the extension. However, if you're on a tight budget, or time is tight, or you're going to use this code more than once then you really aren't going to get a more cost-effective solution.

RE: RE: RE: RE: You don't need this extension!
January 19, 2002 by jose jones

Boy, I don't know what is more disapointing, the guy shucking people out of $19 or people that can't read and totally miss the point. The point was this extention is not worth the money. I'm not talking about the other extensions in general. Where did you get that? I think we all agree that the time they save, etc., etc. is worth the money if they actually do something more than a couple lines of code.

Oh, by the way extension-boy, it took more time typing this letter than it did figuring out how to write the those few lines. That's why the extension isn't worth the money.

Again, let's summarize. Extensions that actually do save time = good. Extensions that are five lines of code that are expensive and easy to replicate = bad.

Paleezzz!

Developer's choice
February 5, 2002 by Don West

Jose is obviously a gifted programmer and can comprehend coding solutions quickly.  Most of us though are wearers of many hats on tight deadlines to complete sites.

Speaking for myself, my "programmer's hat" gets worn more frequently that I desire since I am code challenged.  I simply don't have the time or brainial inclination to learn to code my sites.  That's why I bought UD (and some extensions). 

Jose would serve himself well to direct the energy involved in creating this thread into developing likewise useful extensions. Seeing as how he is able to whip code into shape so quickly, he should be good at it.  Or better yet, post some of his simple code snippet solutions to a web site where all can share it for free ;-) NOT!

To Jose
February 5, 2002 by tom muck

The code isn't hard.  Who said it was?  Your code is incomplete.  It won't work in the UD enviroment -- it breaks the recordset so that it can't be used with other extensions and behaviors. 

Also, my extension is about saving time.  It takes two seconds to apply.  If you try to apply your code to a page that saves 8 parameters, sorts ascending and descending, and is applied to a table with 5 columns, I'd like to see how long it takes you. . . .

There are other free solutions out there, at www.charon.co.uk (free tutorial) and at www.ultradeviant.co.uk (another free tutorial).  They aren't extensions, though, and require time to learn and put on the page. 

The fact is, to build an extension like this that extends the standard recordset, adds content to your existing table, and can be applied with a click is very complex.  I worked on it for about 3 months, with about 150 manhours tied up in coding and testing. 

Next time you eat at a restaurant, give me a call.  I'll give you a list of ingredients so that you don't have to spend the money getting the meal prepared for you -- it's simple to make it yourself.

It's about convenience, and the sooner you learn that the better off you'll be as a programmer. 

tom

RE: You don't need this extension!
February 5, 2002 by Omar Elbaga

This is all you need to build an html table,

<table><tr><td>my text</td></tr></table>

Maybe Dreamweaver should be discontinued...

- omar

OK, I give...
February 15, 2002 by jose jones

OK, I admit I a wrong. This is a good extension, and worth the $20.

I say this because I was duped into buying Wayne Lambright's "photo gallery" extension which isn't an extension at all! When I asked for my money back he wouldn't give it too me, even though it was only 10 minute after I opened it up!

What a bunch of crap!!!! OUCH! $95. I am so stupid!!!

BEWARE: Don't buy anything from Wayne Lambright!!!! He's a 22nd Century huckster!

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You don't need this extension!
December 30, 2002 by Ted Matson

Jose's solution doesn't work.  Obviously he missed something.  I'll go buy the extension now...

RE: After upgrade to MX extension gets error
January 16, 2003 by Tim Green
Please note that DMXZone does not provide support for this extension. Please email the author directly.
RE: After upgrade to MX extension gets error
January 22, 2003 by Perry Shipman

Thanks for the note ... Just wondering though ... feel like an idiot ... but how do I e-mail Mr. Muck?  Thought I would find his address listed on "Sort Repeat Region" page but couldn't ... that is the reason I sent this review/question here.

Any idea of how to reach/e-mail him?

Perry Shipman
Evergreen Computer Services
Juneau, Alaska

Brialliant
July 11, 2003 by Kenny Darcy
Just a quick note to thank Tom for a great extension, talk about a time saver and the ease of use. Look forward to what Tom has coming out next.

Kenny
Link don't work
September 24, 2007 by DB Sims
Is this extension no longer available? The basic-ultradev website seems to be offline.
RE: Link don't work
September 24, 2007 by tom muck
The extension is available from http://www.tom-muck.com/extensions/
Great timesaver!
January 7, 2008 by Kevin H

It was only about 15 minutes from download to install to functional use.

Worked great in DW CS3 trial version. I had one problem when trying to get it to work on a page where my recordset was not defined correctly, but that was my code, not the extension.

I recommend this extension.

Today is Monday, January 7, 2008.